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		<title>Should MSFT Spin Off MSN.com/Live into Yahoo!?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 22:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ashkan Karbasfrooshan</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[Came across a nice rundown of MSFT&#8217;s revenues across units:
Windows desktop client $13 Billion
Windows Server and development tools $11.5 Billion
Office - Information Worker - $11.8 Billion
Home Entertainment Xbox, Zune - $4.3 Billion
MSN Live Search - $2.3 Billion
Business Solutions (CRM, ERP) - $900M
Mobile Embedded Devices (phones) - $400M
In 2006, Yahoo! had net income of $751M on [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Came across a <a href="http://dondodge.typepad.com/the_next_big_thing/2007/03/microsoft_vc_su.html" target="_blank">nice rundown</a> of MSFT&#8217;s revenues across units:</p>
<li>Windows desktop client $13 Billion</li>
<li>Windows Server and development tools $11.5 Billion</li>
<li>Office - Information Worker - $11.8 Billion</li>
<li>Home Entertainment Xbox, Zune - $4.3 Billion</li>
<li>MSN Live Search - $2.3 Billion</li>
<li>Business Solutions (CRM, ERP) - $900M</li>
<li>Mobile Embedded Devices (phones) - $400M</li>
<p>In 2006, Yahoo! had net income of $751M on revenues of $6.4B, for a margin of 11% (in 2005 it boasted margins of 36% though) with a P/E of 60.  Google, meanwhile, did $3B in net income on $10.6B in revenues, for a margin of 29%, with a P/E of 46.</p>
<p>So say on average, a top tier US portal boasts margins of 25% and a P/E of 50 (quite rich, I know), that implies that MSN.com / Live Search</p>
<p>- generates profits of 0.25 x $2.3B = $575M<br />
- is worth $28.75B</p>
<p>At today&#8217;s close, Yahoo! was worth $43B and Google a stunning $144B. </p>
<p>At a valuation of $28.75B, MSN.com / Live Search would be worth 67% of Yahoo! and 20% of Google.</p>
<p>Of course, Google owns 5% of AOL.com&#8230; and while many have talked about AOL.com being bought by Yahoo!, and many are calling for MSFT to outright buy Yahoo!, I am thinking, why not spin off MSN.com / Live Search into Yahoo!</p>
<p>Yahoo! has a stronger brand than MSN.com / Live Search (and which one is it, anyway: MSN.com or Live.com?), and frankly, Google&#8217;s 50% market share in search implies that it cannot buy a search player without raising the ire of the antitrust cops&#8230;</p>
<p>But MSN and Yahoo! combined outside of MSFT, now that could work.  Of course, there is nothing stopping MSFT in being a major shareholder of Yahoo!  If Yahoo! is worth $42B and MSN.com / Live Search would be worth $28.75B, and assume the new entity would be simply worth the sum, which is $71.75B, then technically MSFT could/would own 40% of Yahoo! which is, well, not as crazy as MSFT owning all of Yahoo!</p>
<p>In fact, while 2007 has seen tides turn and the Web gods smile down upon Yahoo! while Google has tripped up with lawsuits and what not, MSN.com / Live Search is not as fortunate as Yahoo!, meaning that it might have an incentive to divest directly in Web ventures to invest indirectly via a spin-off of MSN.com / Live Search into Yahoo!, who has the Web at its DNA core.</p>
<p>The combined entity would be powerful in many ways: its share of searches (according to comScore) would be Yahoo!&#8217;s 28.1% + MSFT&#8217;s 10.5% = 38.6%, compared to Google&#8217;s 48.1%.  More importantly, the combined entity would be far and away the largest media property online, eclipsing everyone else by a mile and reach practically every single Web user in the world.</p>
<p>The likelihood of this is close to zero, and if we could dole out negative percentages, we would here.  MSFT and Bill Gates were slow to recognize the Web&#8217;s importance.  They were then slow to embrace search.  With $44B in revenues and 70,000 employees, there is a much higher likelihood for them to double up on search and the Web&#8230; but that being said, owning 40% of the world&#8217;s largest and arguably greatest media empire would not necessarily be a poor alternative either, and it just might unleash MSN.com/Live&#8217;s value.</p>
<p>More strategically, it would also put Google on the defensive, something that MSFT might welcome more than you and I can imagine.</p>
<p>Disclosure: I own shares in YHOO!</p>
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